DuC vs SBW (Candy Cup #1, Game 2 - 21 Apr 09)

Game 1 (Non-CC game)

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Lanes:
Top: thd/Scorp - Zues/CW
Mid: DP - potm
Bot: Lich/Naix - Mag/Abba

Comment:
This was supposed to be the Candy Cup game but due to us going for 2x macs, which is against the rules, this game didn't count. We played til the very end of the game, which was a few mins after getting the 2nd mac. can't believe I forgot about the item limits. X_x Soz again SBW/DuC.

SBW went with an unconventional Mag-abbadon bot lane.

Pretty one sided game, with thd getting all the kills top (kill-steal pro ).

Spoiler:

Winner: DuC

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Game 2 (CC Game)

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Lanes:
Bush: -- / Lycan
Top: Gorgon - Lich
Mid: cm/tiny - Syla
Bot: Tinker/Doom - es/thd

Comment:
DuC choosing Syla, you know what that means.

I wanted to go for the same picks as the game before, but the rest of the guyz wanted a level 1 Rosh. Seeing as we forgot to elim es, and having Syla usually means it's sorta a pushing-strat, we chose him before they did.

Was surprised to see Gorgon solo top, instead of the usual Tinker solo mid.

This game was a lot closer in terms of k/d, but cause of our pushing, SBW didn't get a chance to band together to tt - think we still had all our towers standing. This also resulted in everyone having a pretty dismal -cs.

Funny enough, we almost blotched up a 2nd time - with thd building a headdress. Thankfully some1 reminded him. >_<

Spoiler:

Winner: DuC

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Ya was kinda disappointing, like an anti-climax.....Kudo's to Caboose tho, not being so anal like the other okes. In the 1st game ya we had 2 meks from not knowing that the item restrictions were so, but it wasnt like the 2 meks won it or gave us such an advantage...So that was a lil dispappointing. Anyway....Still had fun tho

Well, ive played against you guys before with 2 mecha's and it made quite a difference then. That was just a friendly tho so we weren't really bothered.

Just some advice for SBW. I think u guys need to work on your picks a bit.

When picking its very important to consider the lanes you will use. You need to ensure that you have a strong hero combination in lanes and that your solo is the best hero suited for the job. Characteristics of a strong lane combo are:

1)Normal best practice to mix 1 melee and 1 range or 2 range. 2 Melee in a lane will more often than not struggle.
2)Dual stun makes for a very strong aggresive lane. Normally consists of two gankers eg sandking and lina.
3)Babysit lane is normally 1 melee carry/semi carry and a support hero, or ranged ganker. Examples are Warlock/axe, Lion/naix. The focus of this lane is to let the melee hero farm as much as possible, while his partner basically protects him and harasses the oposition.

Looking at your second game I would've put doom and Medussa in a lane and let tinker solo mid. The reason Tinker is a good solo mid is so that he can get a bottle and pick up the runes to keep his spam going. It also allows him to gang top and bot easily. CM tiny is a very nice lane though.

Rockafella wrote:Well, ive played against you guys before with 2 mecha's and it made quite a difference then. That was just a friendly tho so we weren't really bothered.

But Rocka, if you watch the replay you would see that it was really 1-sided before the 2nd mek came thru. Cus dam, Shau got his mek with THD in uber-fast time...lol Rush mek ftw

lol you can build 5 mechs but its not the mechs that wins the game. Have you ever seek ks'int or one of those clans build a mech?????? no cuz its a stupid item lol.

Rockafella wrote:Well, ive played against you guys before with 2 mecha's and it made quite a difference then. That was just a friendly tho so we weren't really bothered.

Just some advice for SBW. I think u guys need to work on your picks a bit.

When picking its very important to consider the lanes you will use. You need to ensure that you have a strong hero combination in lanes and that your solo is the best hero suited for the job. Characteristics of a strong lane combo are:

1)Normal best practice to mix 1 melee and 1 range or 2 range. 2 Melee in a lane will more often than not struggle.
2)Dual stun makes for a very strong aggresive lane. Normally consists of two gankers eg sandking and lina.
3)Babysit lane is normally 1 melee carry/semi carry and a support hero, or ranged ganker. Examples are Warlock/axe, Lion/naix. The focus of this lane is to let the melee hero farm as much as possible, while his partner basically protects him and harasses the oposition.

Looking at your second game I would've put doom and Medussa in a lane and let tinker solo mid. The reason Tinker is a good solo mid is so that he can get a bottle and pick up the runes to keep his spam going. It also allows him to gang top and bot easily. CM tiny is a very nice lane though.

Lol yeah we still working out the kinks, i mean we only used to play PUBS now we wanting to do a bit more cause pubs are getting helluva boring. Shot for da info, i wanted to elim sylla but they said i shudnt and that they wernt gonna choose him. *cough*ahem*cough* But when i saw that Rosh defeated in 15 seconds i was like . And sorry again about my team they technical freaks.

Sylla shouldn't be considered for banning. He is actually seldom picked in clannies. There just too many other more imba heroes that need a ban.

[SBW]_Caboose_ wrote:i wanted to elim sylla...

lol... That would've been funny. >_< But as Rocka said, there are a number of other heroes that are way more feared/crutial in clan DotA - I reckon as you guyz play more and more you'll find them out.

To list a few of them...
-Puck (awesome initiator/ganger, and that silence is a nightmare)
-es (stops pushes in a heart-beat, also a good player can be deadly with that wall of his)
-Kunkka (that splash damage, plus 'X', can really hurt, not to mention that imba ship)
-levi (insane AOE ulti)
-na (picks off softer characters np, and is a great ganger)
-chen (but haven't seen many teams pick him lately)
-axe (if you're going for a push strat, he counters it really well so best get rid of him)

[SBW]_Caboose_ wrote:And sorry again about my team they technical freaks.

haha... No need to apologize dude. We were in the wrong on that one. ^_^